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		<title>By: Jill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In my own personal opinion 17 inches in width is barely enough room for an average sized person to sit comfortably. To me, this is another way for an airline to get some extra $ from a passanger. I agree however, that i wouldn&#039;t like it if an obese person sat next to me and their &quot;fat&quot; was spilling in my seat. But what do u expect w/ a seat thats only 17 inches across???? I really think ALL airlines should do away w/ at least one seat per row so they can add an inch or 2 to the economy seats. Most americans are considered to be overweight or obese now days and the airlines should reconize this and make the seats a little wider to accomodate!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In my own personal opinion 17 inches in width is barely enough room for an average sized person to sit comfortably. To me, this is another way for an airline to get some extra $ from a passanger. I agree however, that i wouldn&#8217;t like it if an obese person sat next to me and their &#8220;fat&#8221; was spilling in my seat. But what do u expect w/ a seat thats only 17 inches across???? I really think ALL airlines should do away w/ at least one seat per row so they can add an inch or 2 to the economy seats. Most americans are considered to be overweight or obese now days and the airlines should reconize this and make the seats a little wider to accomodate!!!</p>
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		<title>By: United Airlines Passes Credit Card Fees To Travel Agents &#124; Enduring Wanderlust</title>
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		<dc:creator>United Airlines Passes Credit Card Fees To Travel Agents &#124; Enduring Wanderlust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Earlier in the year, United Airlines made headlines by deciding to charge larger passengers for two seats instead of one.  United Airlines © Matt [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Budget Bus Travel In America &#124; Enduring Wanderlust</title>
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		<dc:creator>Budget Bus Travel In America &#124; Enduring Wanderlust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 06:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to pass up. In many cases, travelers are finding that it&#8217;s even more convenient than air travel. That&#8217;s especially true in the Northeast corridor with the popular route from New York [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] to pass up. In many cases, travelers are finding that it&#8217;s even more convenient than air travel. That&#8217;s especially true in the Northeast corridor with the popular route from New York [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gennaro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gennaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Aaron

I think that&#039;s the assumption because the airlines singled out overweight passengers. They didn&#039;t mention long legs. It might be so, but there has been a case of it. Haven&#039;t seen it...if it has happened.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Aaron</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s the assumption because the airlines singled out overweight passengers. They didn&#8217;t mention long legs. It might be so, but there has been a case of it. Haven&#8217;t seen it&#8230;if it has happened.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 10:34:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone here seems to be assuming that only overweight people will have to pay for two seats.

@ Carla

If someone were 6&#039;7 and 300lbs they would not have to pay for two seats UNLESS they spilled over onto another seat.

People are arguing that United could simply widen the seats to accomodate larger passengers, but wouldn&#039;t that mean that less people would fit onto a plane? If less people go onto one plane, the prices will obviously go up. The average traveller would have to pay MORE to compensate.

It&#039;s simple utilitarianism because it&#039;s the best possible solution to all concerned. To complain that it&#039;s not fair to larger people is selfish is selfish in itself.

I&#039;m a very tall person and am prepared to pay extra if my legs make someone else&#039;s trip uncomfortable.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone here seems to be assuming that only overweight people will have to pay for two seats.</p>
<p>@ Carla</p>
<p>If someone were 6&#8242;7 and 300lbs they would not have to pay for two seats UNLESS they spilled over onto another seat.</p>
<p>People are arguing that United could simply widen the seats to accomodate larger passengers, but wouldn&#8217;t that mean that less people would fit onto a plane? If less people go onto one plane, the prices will obviously go up. The average traveller would have to pay MORE to compensate.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s simple utilitarianism because it&#8217;s the best possible solution to all concerned. To complain that it&#8217;s not fair to larger people is selfish is selfish in itself.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a very tall person and am prepared to pay extra if my legs make someone else&#8217;s trip uncomfortable.</p>
<p>My two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Gennaro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gennaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 15:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Carla

That&#039;s a good point. I&#039;d hate to be the person who has to approach a customer and tell them they have to pay an extra fare. I&#039;m also interested in knowing when this takes place. Before or after boarding? When does that person pay for the second fare?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Carla</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a good point. I&#8217;d hate to be the person who has to approach a customer and tell them they have to pay an extra fare. I&#8217;m also interested in knowing when this takes place. Before or after boarding? When does that person pay for the second fare?</p>
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		<title>By: Carla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Apr 2009 02:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dont know about this one.  Just like everyone else, I hate it when someone spills over into my seat, but I dont see how they are going to enforce it.  Are they going to measure people when they are checking in??  A guy can be 6&#039;7&quot; and 300lbs; those he&#039;s not obese, because he of a higher weight, are they going to charge him for two seats? 

I dont see how they are going to enforce this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dont know about this one.  Just like everyone else, I hate it when someone spills over into my seat, but I dont see how they are going to enforce it.  Are they going to measure people when they are checking in??  A guy can be 6&#8242;7&#8243; and 300lbs; those he&#8217;s not obese, because he of a higher weight, are they going to charge him for two seats? </p>
<p>I dont see how they are going to enforce this.</p>
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		<title>By: Gennaro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gennaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 05:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sire

That&#039;s a possibility. Most people just go with the lowest fare on the route. We&#039;ll see if United actual profits much from this. </description>
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<p>That&#8217;s a possibility. Most people just go with the lowest fare on the route. We&#8217;ll see if United actual profits much from this.</p>
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		<title>By: Sire</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 01:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can understand the economics of the policy but I feel that the bad publicity they are going to get from making such a decision is going to bite them in their big fat financial ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can understand the economics of the policy but I feel that the bad publicity they are going to get from making such a decision is going to bite them in their big fat financial ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Gennaro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gennaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sandy

I&#039;m assuming it would mean &quot;larger&quot; passengers pay for and get two seat next to each other giving them ample room. Would be ridiculous otherwise to charge double fair, in my view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sandy</p>
<p>I&#8217;m assuming it would mean &#8220;larger&#8221; passengers pay for and get two seat next to each other giving them ample room. Would be ridiculous otherwise to charge double fair, in my view.</p>
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		<title>By: Sandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 23:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, if they are going to be paying for two seats, they better make sure they are side by side!  As I have flown with family members before wanting to sit beside each other and at times we were split up!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, if they are going to be paying for two seats, they better make sure they are side by side!  As I have flown with family members before wanting to sit beside each other and at times we were split up!!</p>
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		<title>By: Gennaro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gennaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 13:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nomadic Matt

Seems like the consensus so far. 

@Venus

It is a tough situation. Is there a great way to make sure both parties (larger paasenger and person seated next to them) are both happy and comfortable? Probably nothing ideal. Bigger seats on all flights wuld be one solution, but that means either less profit or higher fares for all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nomadic Matt</p>
<p>Seems like the consensus so far. </p>
<p>@Venus</p>
<p>It is a tough situation. Is there a great way to make sure both parties (larger paasenger and person seated next to them) are both happy and comfortable? Probably nothing ideal. Bigger seats on all flights wuld be one solution, but that means either less profit or higher fares for all.</p>
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		<title>By: Venus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Venus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 06:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not as cut and dried as simply charging overweight or obese people higher. I agree with everyone above about making sure they are only doing this on full flights when one traveler may be bothering another by encroaching on their seat. Frankly, I feel bad for anyone who has to pay this because as someone else pointed out some people are overweight due to medical condistions they have no control over. 

That said, I am also glad the airlines are addressing this issue one way or the other because as a relatively slender/small person I have been stuck in one too many uncomfortable flights next to someone who took up half my seat without the slightest hint of concern. I have had people elbow me out of the way even, or fall asleep on me and the last time was on a 10 hr transatlantic flight. So, if this means I actually get to use my seat I am all for it. 

I just wish there is a way to make this fair to most people but I don&#039;t know if there is. Someone may always be left holding the short end of the stick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not as cut and dried as simply charging overweight or obese people higher. I agree with everyone above about making sure they are only doing this on full flights when one traveler may be bothering another by encroaching on their seat. Frankly, I feel bad for anyone who has to pay this because as someone else pointed out some people are overweight due to medical condistions they have no control over. </p>
<p>That said, I am also glad the airlines are addressing this issue one way or the other because as a relatively slender/small person I have been stuck in one too many uncomfortable flights next to someone who took up half my seat without the slightest hint of concern. I have had people elbow me out of the way even, or fall asleep on me and the last time was on a 10 hr transatlantic flight. So, if this means I actually get to use my seat I am all for it. </p>
<p>I just wish there is a way to make this fair to most people but I don&#8217;t know if there is. Someone may always be left holding the short end of the stick.</p>
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		<title>By: Nomadic Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nomadic Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 05:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i support this. if you are going to take up two seats or spill over into my seat, you should pay for the extra room</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i support this. if you are going to take up two seats or spill over into my seat, you should pay for the extra room</p>
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		<title>By: Gennaro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gennaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 01:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nisha

Business class seats are often more costly than two coach seats, but that would be an interesting option. You present a tough call with someone who has health issues. What about people who are very tall? Legs?

@Pete Blakemore

Definitely a unusual PR stunt. I guess they&#039;ll take any attention sent their way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nisha</p>
<p>Business class seats are often more costly than two coach seats, but that would be an interesting option. You present a tough call with someone who has health issues. What about people who are very tall? Legs?</p>
<p>@Pete Blakemore</p>
<p>Definitely a unusual PR stunt. I guess they&#8217;ll take any attention sent their way.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Blakemore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Blakemore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:45:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just an FYI, Ryanair charging for toilet use was revealed to be fake, and just part of the their (twisted) scheme to get as much PR as possible. They really don&#039;t care what people think of them, but only that people fly with them.

Pretty ridiculous really.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.bitterwallet.com/ryanairs-oleary-admits-spend-a-penny-story-was-a-stunt/8716&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;O&#039;Leary Admits Spending A Penny Story Was A Stunt&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just an FYI, Ryanair charging for toilet use was revealed to be fake, and just part of the their (twisted) scheme to get as much PR as possible. They really don&#8217;t care what people think of them, but only that people fly with them.</p>
<p>Pretty ridiculous really.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.bitterwallet.com/ryanairs-oleary-admits-spend-a-penny-story-was-a-stunt/8716" rel="nofollow">O&#8217;Leary Admits Spending A Penny Story Was A Stunt</a></p>
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		<title>By: Nisha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nisha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:56:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a tough one. It&#039;s not right to discomfort someone else by taking part of their seat, but some overweight passengers have health issues that lead to their weight. I think first class with bigger seats is a good option.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a tough one. It&#8217;s not right to discomfort someone else by taking part of their seat, but some overweight passengers have health issues that lead to their weight. I think first class with bigger seats is a good option.</p>
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		<title>By: Gennaro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gennaro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Mike G

On the first point, you deserve full access to that seat. True that yu also paid a full fare. It&#039;s also true that RyanAir&#039;s flight are usually shorter distances. I guess for a $40 flight a few more won&#039;t hurt the consumer too much. Not sure it&#039;s worth implementing the toilet policy though.

@Nadia

I&#039;m interested to see if anyone will challenge the double fare in court. Probably not, but it wouldn&#039;t be too shocking to see it. Ryan took a lot of bad press, but in the end passengers want the lowest fares and will still use them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Mike G</p>
<p>On the first point, you deserve full access to that seat. True that yu also paid a full fare. It&#8217;s also true that RyanAir&#8217;s flight are usually shorter distances. I guess for a $40 flight a few more won&#8217;t hurt the consumer too much. Not sure it&#8217;s worth implementing the toilet policy though.</p>
<p>@Nadia</p>
<p>I&#8217;m interested to see if anyone will challenge the double fare in court. Probably not, but it wouldn&#8217;t be too shocking to see it. Ryan took a lot of bad press, but in the end passengers want the lowest fares and will still use them.</p>
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		<title>By: Nadia - Happy Lotus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nadia - Happy Lotus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow! I did not know this, thanks Gennaro. I am a United frequent flier so this is interesting to me. So many things come to mind. I guess airlines are desperate for money and another thing, it is a sad comment on the state of health in the world. I know in America this is a huge issue and maybe it is something like this that will make people realize that we need to have healthier food available or at least, eat healthier. 

As for airlines like Ryan Air charging to use the bathroom, that is stupid. I mean..seriously???? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! I did not know this, thanks Gennaro. I am a United frequent flier so this is interesting to me. So many things come to mind. I guess airlines are desperate for money and another thing, it is a sad comment on the state of health in the world. I know in America this is a huge issue and maybe it is something like this that will make people realize that we need to have healthier food available or at least, eat healthier. </p>
<p>As for airlines like Ryan Air charging to use the bathroom, that is stupid. I mean..seriously???? <img src='http://www.enduringwanderlust.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Mike G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 12:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two things: 

1. As a passanger who paid for a full seat, I like this policy which will hopefully guarantee I get my full seat. It would be nice if there was a way in the future to charge the guy next to you for &quot;spilling&quot; over a little too much. 

2. I have flown RyanAir for under $40 on flights from Venice to Barcelona, Barcelona to London-Porto-Paris. For $40, I can hold it. And if I really had to pee--I could pay 5 bucks for it. I would rather keep getting those ridiculously low fairs--and just time my bathroom breaks a little better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two things: </p>
<p>1. As a passanger who paid for a full seat, I like this policy which will hopefully guarantee I get my full seat. It would be nice if there was a way in the future to charge the guy next to you for &#8220;spilling&#8221; over a little too much. </p>
<p>2. I have flown RyanAir for under $40 on flights from Venice to Barcelona, Barcelona to London-Porto-Paris. For $40, I can hold it. And if I really had to pee&#8211;I could pay 5 bucks for it. I would rather keep getting those ridiculously low fairs&#8211;and just time my bathroom breaks a little better.</p>
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